tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post9152309953144104525..comments2023-11-03T05:27:32.648-04:00Comments on Xibalba: xibalbahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-15631578472441206732012-08-30T20:24:51.316-04:002012-08-30T20:24:51.316-04:00I see you've read some of my pieces about Thor...I see you've read some of my pieces about Thor Heyerdahl's extremely questionable arguements for hyper-diffusionism. AS an adventure story the voyage of the Kon Tiki is quite exciting. As proof of contact between Polynesia and Peru it is dubious at best.<br /><br />I don't know if the movie skates over Thor Heyerdahl's many adventures in pseudoscience land or his stunningly cavalier attitude towards evidence. <br /><br />The fact remains that 60+ years after the voyage Thor Heyerdahl's hypothesis is very unlikely.<br /><br />a) There was no invasion of blond and red headed, blue-eyed "White" people who brought civilization to the New World c. 1200 B.C.E., much like the Spanish Conquisitors who conqured Mexico and Peru.<br /><br />b) The Polynesians did NOT originate from the northern Pacific coast of North America. In fact it appears that the Polynesians did indeed originate in East Asia and migrated from there as indicated by their speaking a Austronesian language.<br /><br />c) Easter island is throughly Polynesian and any pre-European contact with PSouth American Indians, assuming such a thing happenned, would have been incidential. In other words no large scale settlement of the island by South American Indians. (Who are actually the descendents of the Blond etc, invaders of c. 1200 B.C.E.)<br /><br />d) Despite Thor Heyerdahl's disagrement and derision of same it appears that Polynesia was indeed settled from East Asia by Polynesians sailing further East against prevailing winds and currents.<br /><br />e) There is and remains close to zero evidence of ANY Peruvian contact with Ploynesiaq pre-European. And such evidence is dubious. <br /><br />f) THe "White God" bringing civilization and returning mythos that Thor Heyerdahl used to bolster his theories as been exploded in that the natives of the New World simply did not have such legends until after the Europeans came and imposed them. In the original myths the Gods bringing civilizations were NOT "White".<br /><br />g) Blood group studies and genetic studies have shown that the Polynesians are not offshoots of American Indians. Except of course groups, like Easter Islanders, who subsequent to European contact were subject ot repeated and in many cases brutal attention from fleets and ships based in Peru.<br /><br />h) With the latest Archaeological digs in Peru and sites like Caral and Aspero, the foundations of Peruvian civilization have been pushed back to 3000 B.C.E. at least. In Mexico the origins of Olmec civilization now go back to c. 1600 B.C.E. Thus entirely precluding civilization being brought c. 1200 B.C.E.<br /><br />i) Despite decades of digs Thor Heyerdahl's alleged invaders have not left a single artifact that can be found. This lack of artifacts would effectively preclude hyper-diffusion and moderaste diffussion leaving only incidential voyages.<br /><br />j) The piling up of similarities is a sterile field esspecially when it is done the way Thor Heyerdahl did it. Thor Heyerdahl's approach of comparing items seperated by thousands of years is esspecially dubious. The fact is given the fact that each culture is composed of many many thousand upon thousands of traits and that humans make culture similarities are foredoomed to arise. This esspeci8ally true if humans are trying to adapt to similar enviroments. <br /><br />J) It does indeed appear to be the case that the civilizations of the New World originated and developed largely on their own. If anything the research since c. 1950 has massively strenghthened that idea.<br /><br />I still might see the movie I like an adventure story.<br /> xibalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-67190369174062658492012-08-29T19:31:02.010-04:002012-08-29T19:31:02.010-04:00You should see the new movie Kon Tiki.
You'll ...You should see the new movie Kon Tiki.<br />You'll love it:P haha<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjpzU-drJ8Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com