tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post6857507764546519970..comments2023-11-03T05:27:32.648-04:00Comments on Xibalba: xibalbahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-16793554354167342882017-01-31T05:02:29.150-05:002017-01-31T05:02:29.150-05:00This analysis is the best one till date i have rea...This analysis is the best one till date i have read this twice thanks for sharing this check <a href="https://www.funklist.com/top-ten-most-populated-cities-in-the-world/" rel="nofollow">Top Ten Most Populated Cities in the World - funklist</a>Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18246797729372072533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-73603025460210893492016-03-01T19:58:11.884-05:002016-03-01T19:58:11.884-05:00The 1 million figure for the population of Rome is...The 1 million figure for the population of Rome is little more than a academic urban legend. The bottom line is we don't know what the population of ancient, imperial Rome was and the censuses you refer to say no such thing. They talk about the number of Roman citizens and are then extrapolated to estimate the number of people in Rome. There are no surviving census figures for the net population of Rome.<br /><br />The number of cities in either the Ancient or medieval world that had AVERAGE population densities of c. 72,000 per square kilometer was very small. We are being asked to believe that ancient Rome's AVERAGE population density was that of an incredibly crowded city slum. In fact you would have to go to places like the infamous City of Joy slum in Calcutta to find densities like that. Most other Ancient cities on average don't seem to have had anything like this sort of density.<br /><br />And of course if this is the AVERAGE density of ancient Rome we have to take into account that c. 20% of the area within the Aurelian walls was unoccupied and that large areas of Rome were occupied by public buildings and the homes of the wealthy. That combined with the fact that AVERAGE densities are just that averages means that most of the population of Rome would be crowded in areas with well above 72,000 people per square kilometer and in fact much of Rome would have areas with densities above 100,000 per square kilometer. This is bluntly absurd. The evidence from Ostia and Pompeii would seem to indicate densities well below that. <br /><br />Oh and I agree that modern cities do in fact frequently have AVERAGE densities well below ancient and medieval ones. However the bottom line remains even the most extremely crowded sectors of modern city slums rarely get has crowded has the AVERAGE density of a million person ancient Rome.<br /><br />Having been to New York I can say plenty of modern people are living on top of each other.<br /><br />I suggest you read Storey's article he is well aware of the fact that some ancient and medieval cities had AVERAGE population densities greater than many modern cities and he takes that into account.<br /><br />I am well aware that other historians have critiqued the idea of a "low" population for ancient Rome generally on the basis of citing other equally unreliable figures for the population of ancient and medieval cities.<br /><br />All in all the I million figure is simply not worth taking seriously In the slightest. Although the number of Historians who take it seriously is quite amusing.xibalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-91980686188630879192016-03-01T11:03:23.901-05:002016-03-01T11:03:23.901-05:001. They had the ability to support 1 million peopl...1. They had the ability to support 1 million people.<br />2. They supposedly did have 1 million people from censuses.<br />3. That is in no way an unprecedented or ridiculous population density, especially if you look at other large ancient cities. Modern urban design often leads to lower population density , not higher. This can be seen in almost every major city, where the area is now much larger, but people are no longer living right on top of each otherSavoyard Reactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00782006064366285107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-57493460612280466692013-11-11T21:57:41.413-05:002013-11-11T21:57:41.413-05:00I am glad you found this article useful. May I ask...I am glad you found this article useful. May I ask what fiction you are writing?xibalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224952131898257723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16218624.post-66143464216034551632013-11-11T12:43:21.332-05:002013-11-11T12:43:21.332-05:00Thank you for this analysis. I'm more in to fi...Thank you for this analysis. I'm more in to fiction writing and needed to find a decent population density for a city. I had found an online generator, which seems to be using Ostia's population density.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com